Sunday, April 30, 2017

WEEK FOURTEEN BLOG ENTRY

A famous teacher once uttered the following phrase: "All college students should have four years of the same general classes so that our citizens have the same basic foundation on which to build free peoples. Most job training cannot happen in college anyway, so why not build well rounded, educated people and let the job training happen after college. There should be no major--only general ed!"

A brilliant colleague responded, "That's ridiculous. We offer general education for our youth from kindergarten through the twelfth grade. That is enough! College should only be about learning in a particular discipline or field. There should be NO GENERAL education! All four years (or more) should be spent studying in the field in which the student will work!"

With whom do you agree? (should there be all general education or no general education?)

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  1. I agree with the one who said that there should be no general education. Although I find general education valuable, I think that when it comes to college, it is important to be more focused on a particular discipline so that we could be ready for a job that fits our personal interests. Being in college now, I would much rather take my major courses as opposed to my general education courses. He is right, we spent K-12 learning general education and a lot of what we learned will stick with us to a certain extent. I think learning in my major classes makes me less stressed about my future career because I am becoming educated in that field.

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    1. Angela,
      You have a point but I still believe general education contributes a lot especially for students who are unsure about what major to choose, general education gives them a brief introduction to multiple options.

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    2. Angela,
      college should be focused on ones specific career path, that way we are prepared to start right out of school. And you're right, we spent plenty on time on general education course prior to college.

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    3. Angela,

      You wrote a very nice post. I liked your conciseness, and how you supported your position. In my case, I think general education in college is essential, because it helps individuals broaden their aspects of thinking. I noticed that general education includes creativity, jokes, and interesting stories. Another reason why I enjoyed your post is because you came up with a true fact, that you should focus on your major (so that you prepare for a job, which fits your interests). I truly enjoy jobs which require the typing of word documents, and contain a lot of humor. I truly enjoy entertainment and a lot of writing, even though my major is different. I hope to work at a sciences company, as well as a writing and entertainment industry. Everyone has unique ideas, and he/she can do different jobs at different times in his/her life. I think creativity is important in developing a person fully. Overall, I enjoyed your post.

      Roshaan S.

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  2. I feel as if I agree more with the individual that said there should be no general education. I believe there is some general education courses that could be of value to you, but on the other hand I feel as if there is no point in taking something that is of no interest of you. I would much rather spend my 4 years in college learning more about the human body (I am a Kinesiology major), than the philosophies of the 1400's. It just makes no sense to have someone spend their money and time that they are never going to apply in the future career fields. General education courses although do open your mind and can let you explore the possibilities of your future career, but if you are already set in what you want to do, I feel there is no point in taking those courses.

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    1. I can see how it would be very beneficial to expand more on the study of the human body in movement, however I think many individuals walk out of college understanding how to do their profession but lack the skills to attain them. Eventually you might have to connect with an individuals and that doesn't always relate to your field of expertise. Its great to be an expert in your field but necessary to stay novice an another to continue to grow as in individual.

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    2. Yes! I completely agree with you Christian. That is exactly how I feel about that issue, especially when it pertains to the student's money it should be spent only on what they will be specializing in.

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    3. Christian,
      You are right, but instead of not having any general education at all how about doing less general ed instead? I still think general ed helps us become well rounded individuals.

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    4. Christian,

      You wrote a nice post. This is because you picked your position, and provided concise support. The fact, which stated that you should pick what you are interested in, is a very important point to consider. If you pick a major you do not love, you can end up taking an overwhelming majority of classes (which can be unnecessary throughout your degree). In my opinion, I believe that all college classes will be enjoyable, if a person self-motivates and interests himself/herself in the learning process. I am a person who enjoys writing, poetry recitation, and forms of entertainment like the following: video games, television shows, movies, and even outdoor California attractions. I learned that college is a learning process, and it involves a lot of creative thinking and writing. This also means that I support general education, because it involves creativity for every person in college. Another interesting fact is that I like to travel to Europe, and other places in the world. I hope you enjoy the major you are doing. You did well on stating, that GE opens up people’s minds.

      Roshaan S.

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  3. I believe general education is critical to building an effective society who are able to engage in many fields due to the exposure of many different topics. I think that college should include general education in its curriculum, I personally feel I benefited a lot from my general education. I think that possibly incorporating internships earlier into our general education should be implemented so students could be focusing on their field but at the same time learning from their general education and are able to apply it daily. I remember being able to apply skills i learned in my abnormal psychology when I was interning at Terrio Physical Therapy when a patient with special needs arrived and was able to understand how to deal with this individual. Due to my general education I was able to identify that indeed this was abnormal situation and was able to respond accordingly. General education does have an beneficial role in our professional development.

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    1. I do agree with you. General classes are important for students, specially the ones that are not sure what career to peruse. Besides, once one graduates, he has the rest of his life to keep learning skills to improve on that particular field.

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    3. Daniel,
      Yes! I am all for general education, I feel like I have learned so much from it to the point where I don't feel so ignorant when it comes to approaching certain topics. I definitely think we still need it, maybe not as much but definitely some courses.

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    4. I love the idea of having internships early on. I learned a lot more about my field from my internship than my actual classes. I also really enjoyed my general ed classes, so I would agree we should keep them.

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    5. Daniel,

      I do agree that general education is important for everyone. It is important, because it broadly develops an individual as a whole. Courses like sociology, political science, history, all help people think deeply and help make people creative thinkers. I truly believe that people should take general education courses in college, to apply their skills in the workplace. You wrote a very nice post, because your same post was concise and well-written. You clearly stated the following true facts of general education: variety is essential, general education skills should be applied to the workplace, general education is based on responding accordingly to situations, and general education benefits and develops people as professions. You also gave a good example of your experience at an internship, and what you were able to do regarding your psychology skills. Your post was enjoyable as a whole. I hope to read more posts as well.

      Roshaan S.

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    6. Daniel,
      I definitely agree that they should offer internships early on. I feel like most students would benefit from them and they will feel one step closer to their career.

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  4. I believe that college students should not be required to take general education courses because it is material that they already have been familiar with at some point in high school. Although for some it can be helpful, the majority of the students already grasp the concepts and skills of the GE courses therefore, they should focus solely on their major courses to learn and successfully master the important information that will be addressed and applied to their future careers. Also, college can be very expensive so it is hard having to waste time taking classes that ultimately do not help and serve no purpose for the student's career.

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    1. Hi Ariana, I agree that college can be very expensive. It is better to be wasting money on something that will be useful in the future.

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    2. Yes, it can be very pricey. But education it’s worth it on the long run.

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  5. I agree with the second colleague more. I do think building well rounded citizens is hard to do, but the best way to do it is while students are young. The first 12 years of someone's education is definitely enough time to do that. Also, for most professions, a general education wouldn't be enough preparation. I don't fully agree with the second colleague because some general skills are needed to succeed in college. Also, the money we pay for a college education should give us more than a generalized knowledge, which is why I think the way it is set up now shouldn't be changed.

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    1. I think both of them are right, but only at some point. I had benefit from general classes. I have learned new things and meet a variety of people. If I was to take only classes for my major, I wouldn't learn that many subjects overlap at some point.

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    2. Hi Jade, I understand what you are saying and I do believe that what they should do is have those General Education courses available only If the student wishes to take it to be able to have that option if need be to get further help or just for a brief review.

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  6. I completely disagree with the professor. As children, we go through 12 years of general education that teaches us the fundamentals of math, English, reading, writing, and even communication. Throughout those 12 years we have obtained valuable information that serve as the building blocks for the "real world". General Ed should not be included in college. College should be dedicated to one's subject of choice, also known as a major. College should help students prepare for their careers and provide additional information on one's major. Honestly if college was only general ed we would be in school forever, learning things dont will not necessarily apply to the career of our choice.

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    1. Hi, you are right when you said that you learned the fundamentals on math, reading, and writing. But, as you are in college, I do believe that we can learn all that to a higher level. How about learning the history of a country that you may want to travel to one day?

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    2. I completely agree with you Raven!
      We spend enough money on college and most of it goes to general education courses that personally, I don't care to take.

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    3. I'd have to agree with you Raven and Virdiana. I feel as if we spend most of our money in college on general education courses that we might never use in our career field, or even in the rest of our lives.

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  7. I agree with the colleague, because focusing on the field you plan to spend the rest of your life is more important than general education. I feel like I learn more when I'm actually experiencing hands on hands on the field. Yes it can be nice to refresh our mind on math, English, science, etc., but it is also important to learn the job. How are we suppose to know what to do when we are hired for a job, if we didn't experience it? We will feel more prepared, comfortable, and positive when we learn the necessary for our major. We go to school for twelve years, and it is a waste of time and money to keep going to school to learn more about general education. Not everyone has the same financial aid. College should not be all about general education. It should be a wonderful and stress free experience where you learn to love the job that will follow you for the next years of your life.

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    1. I agree i feel like it takes longer when working on general education. Students find it more interesting when taking courses that are going to be useful in their careers.

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    2. Emily,
      You are right, financially general education can be become a burden to some students especially because they might see it as a waste of money for unnecessary reasons.

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    3. Claudia,
      Yes it seems more useful when taking courses that will be helpful in their future careers.

      Jose,
      Yes totally makes sense to start experiencing, that way, we can be confident with our job.

      Deisy,
      Yes, college can be very expensive and difficult for people to pay.

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  8. I think that the both sides have problems with their arguments. On the one hand, the teacher who stated that students should have the same general education classes makes a point that we all need a solid foundation, but while much of the job training happens on the job, it is what students learn in college that makes them well-rounded individuals. General education is only the beginning. Learning about specialty fields such as nursing, gives the student the background and the practice that they need to be proficient on the job. Job training is, of course vital, but would you want a nurse or a doctor that was trained on the job, without an in-depth and comprehensive understanding of theory working on you at your most vulnerable moments. This could be applied to other fields as well. The other teacher claims that there should be no general education, but I say that this is where a multitude of students discover what path they want to venture down, and in the process, they gain networks for the future, friendships, autonomy, and many other things that focusing on a major right out of high school may inhibit or restrict. While taking general education classes, market demands change. This may encourage students with multiple talents to change paths as markets and future needs and demands changes. In many cases, while working on their general education classes, this is precisely what happens. We should not rush to narrow students’ education and focus when there is a whole world out there and no one knows what will be around in the future. How many college graduates had to move back into their parent’s home during the recession with degrees that are pretty much obsolete. The question only offered two choices, but I offer a third. Keep general education classes and majors, but make improvements to the existing system.

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    1. I agree with you Albion. Students should not be rushed to choose their path and improvements on this system would be a lot of help.

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    2. I see many of us have taken the same view on the topic. I think some don't understand that Gen Ed is a beginning, but can also be cross applied to many life/work situations, too. I'm glad I've taken the classes I have chosen, and also being careful in taking the Gen Ed classes that will serve a dual purpose, apply to my transfer and be enriching.

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  9. I would have to agree with the teachers perspective on general education. Personally I believe general education is fundamental in order to create well rounded individuals that will be prepared for what the world has to offer. I am speaking from experience because I have learned so much from all my general education classes, I have learned enough to educate others on specific manners. Also, it is always good to know that we can explain nature, write, understand the human body, history, art, etc. the list goes on and on, but all of those are crucial in order to become a well rounded individual. Of course it is important to focus more on specific majors that we have chosen for our future but think general education still plays an important role in the life of the student. Just like a child they must crawl before they can walk, it is the same thing with students, in order to be able to chose the right major they must experience all the subjects in order to see which one is the one for them. Of course this is always a downfall for those students who go into college already knowing what they want to study. However, I think it is still important to build a foundation that will allow students to know a little bit of everything rather than only knowing about a specific single subject. General education will add more knowledge and help us become better citizens, employees, parents etc. General education will eventually benefit them in the long run when they come across specific situations that will require the to use or remember what they learned in those classes. I think it is a gift to be able to learn about multiple things rather than having a broad imagination that is only focused towards a single subject.

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    1. I could see how it would be beneficial to some students because some general courses can be used in real-world experiences and how to handle situations.

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    2. Hi Deisy, your experience with general education classes is a lot like mine. I definitely learned a lot from the ge classes and they were all very different subjects.

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    3. Claudia,
      Exactly! I teaches us how to approach certain topics because we have learned at least something within that field. I personally enjoy knowing a bit of everything!

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    4. Nich,
      It's great to see that there are other students like myself who consider general ed important, like I said earlier I definitely enjoy knowing a bit of everything!

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    5. I really loved, not liked, loved my gen ed classes!! I can't agree with you more on building a foundation from which to build on.

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    7. Scott,
      Glad to see you can relate, learning is something no one can take away from you so the more you know the better!

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  10. I’ll go for the general classes and training on a specific subject. Just the way we have it right now. I do agree that many of the general classes are taught during high school. But when students enter into a university, they perceive their education on a different way. Now they put more effort into their education, and subjects that they didn’t like before start making sense. As they re-learn their basic education, many students end up changing majors. And that’s fine. Some students will continue with their original plan, and many others would change it once or twice before they find what really pleases them. It’s true that many job training happen after college, but it’s important for students to learn the basic-entry level of the discipline of their choice.

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  11. I completely agree with the colleague's perspective. Spending two years taking classes that we will not use on our career job everyday is absurd! The amount of money in school loans we have to pay is ridiculous and most of it is spent on general education courses. I don't think we should be required to take general education classes just because a few students are unsure of what they want to do after they leave high school.
    Some of us as adults are completely sure of what we want to do and would actually like to get started in our field. Being more "well rounded" wont help us do our job better or more accurately. When we take a car to a mechanic for instance, we don't care whether that mechanic knows about the civil war, abstract art or how many organs are in the body. We want to know that he/she can fix our car and do the job right. Our time spent in college should be to focus on a specific major and career path we are looking to take.

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    1. I sometimes feel that some of the general education courses are a waste of time as well. It would be nice to just focus on the courses that will help you in your career of choice.

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    2. Viridiana, I agree there may be a few who are unsure whether in what to major in but I don't think taking general education will help them much if they have been taking general education for far much longer.

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    3. I didn't think of the money aspect of it, Viridiana! You're completely right, we're forced to pay for something that we're not even interested in. Or stuff that we've already learned in high school.

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  12. After reading both sides I would have to say that i agree with the colleague's response. He has a point there is no need to have to do more years of general education. we already did general education in k-12th grade. And also a couple courses in college. But college is what get you ready for the career of your choice. College is what prepares for what you are going to do for the rest of your life. It teaches you in a specific subject instead of everything. This would take longer if we only took all general education courses. I think that people would probably get bored after doing the same thing that was already done in our younger years. College students like to focus and learn about what they chose as a career.

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    1. Claudia, I think more people would attend college if they didn't have go through general education and if they started studying things that is focused on their career goals.

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    2. I think the issue is that we can't say that all education in K-12th is done well. This isn't to say that college-level courses are perfect either; both have problems. If upper-level classes in K-12th solidified everything we've learned until college, I would be in favor of skipping general education in college, but I know plenty of people who have to take remedial English and Math courses in CSUB.

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  13. I would have to side with the colleagues response. Although we may not use all what we have learned in college, it is far more beneficial to focus on a specific subject than to just go over everything we have covered in high school. By focusing specifying on a certain concentration college student are able to see what they really enjoy and helps find that special niche everyone has. Even if college isn't the same as job training within each of our concentrations, it is helpful in more than one way even if we don't notice.

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    1. I agree with you! By having these concentrations it is helpful and allows employers to hire educated and well prepared individuals.

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    2. Focusing on a specific subject definitely makes it more interesting. It's better to study something we're interested in, rather than something we're forced to learn (general ed)

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  14. I agree more with the colleagues response because many of the general education that we learn in college is the same material we learn in high school. I agree that college time should be spend on things that would help us in our field. I also think some people never finish college or may get discouraged to complete college because of all the courses they need to take that we have already taken before. I even think that at some point many of us have thought why are we taking these courses if we wont be able to use it in our field. Also, college is expensive and I don't see how people should have to spend more money on something we already learned. However, I do think general education should be offered for those who took some time off school after they completed high school to refresh there memories. The general education should be kept at minimal. Those of us who go to college straight out of high school shouldn't have to retake those courses.

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    1. I think general classes have helped many individuals to decide what exactly they want to study on. I do agree with you on the fact that people who comes back needs a refresher. For me and many others, it is more like a chance to learn what we didn't learn before for whatever reasons.

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  15. I wanted to share this, though it does not pertain to the assigned blog, but does involve a topic previously blogged, act-of-kindness. I felt compelled to share, as my faith ion humanity was restored a little more today. Thank you for allowing me to share.

    Bear with me on this one, as this one is gonna take a while, but is well worth the read as the reasons why I live the way I live with a strong moral/ethical compass has been reinforced and validated

    I arrived on campus, and proceeded to go to my first class, Modern Drama w/ Dr. Frye (awesome professor, btw). First, I go into the men's room stall, tcb, exit the stall, wash hands, and use the hand towel on the door handle -like always- exiting the men's room. Class finishes up, and I go to look for my phone, and *POOF* I can't find it, "Oh, f*ck me." I go immediately to the stall I used, nada -as I see a mental picture of a tumbleweed blow across the stall floor -"Nooooooooooooooooo, *&*$# *%@%!!" inside my head- realizing this will have to wait as my next class commences in 5 minutes. Class concludes and I bee line to campus police, all the while saying a few words to the Big G, JC, and the Holy Spirit, "please, please, please, let me find my phone." I get to the campus police station, make one last collective plea, and go in. Nada, but am told not to lose hope, along with my own personal vibe that my fellow student body are -from what I have gathered- an honest lot, with phones and gadgets far surpassing my archaic six year old Galaxy SIII, and had faith it would be turned in, (I hoped/prayed). I then check with a few other locations, and proceed to my apt with my English professor, Dr. Frye. We finish up, and I mention I need to try and locate my lost phone, and asks where I left it, I tell him the "men's room, big stall at the end." "OH!! I saw it, but left it there thinking the owner might come back." Yeah, I went back directly after class, but it was gone -thinking "NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! why didn't you pick it up!?!?!"-, and further accept this is in the Big G's hands, and head on home.
    I arrive home, send myself an email in case "he" decides to take a peak inside basically stating my intention of giving a reward - which Immediately thought of doing when I knew it was picked up and having every intention of following through- and would be very grateful for the phone's return, even though nothing of value other than pics and personal info is on it. About 20 minutes later, my neighbor knocks on the door, and tells me a young gentleman called her telling her he found my phone and is trying to return it. I called him back, and he told me he found it, which I confirmed the locale -lol- and my intentions of rewarding him -and keeping my word to myself-, and he proceeds to tell me how much negativity is in the world and he wanted to do the right thing and does NOT want the reward, and mentioned his efforts to call people with my area code to. . . I tell him, "I gotta do something," so I asked if he likes Hot Sauce. and he says yes, and laughs when I introduced my/my partners Hot Sauce Company, and that I am going to give him a TJ Holy Trinity 3-Pack.
    This, THIS, is a part of the 'why' I make it a point to try and be the best person I can be, and at the end of the day know I'll be able to sleep with a clean conscience.
    Please say a prayer for Jose, as he never gave in to the temptation so many others might have done, instead he chose to do the right thing.
    Thank you, Jose, and Thank you, Jesus.

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    1. Aw I am glad Jose made the right choice and you were able to get your phone back. God bless him.

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    2. Hey Scott. Happy to hear that you got your phone back. There is a whole lot of good out there, we just don't notice it until it touches us in some way. Keep your faith in mankind!

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    3. Thank you, 'anzorisly' and Albion!! :) I really appreciate both of you taking the time to read it. I enjoyed sharing it with all of you.
      CSUB Campus has shown me a lot of good in people this semester. Students, faculty, laborers all have been very welcoming and have helped to restore my faith in mankind.

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    4. Hey Scott, I wasn't sure if I wanted to read this long essay. I did by curiosity, and I'm glad I did it. It's good to hear that there is still honest people. But most important, to hear that there is people that know to be thankful. Good night.

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    5. yes, well worth the read! This is so much better than seeing all the negativity on my yahoo page...you should start a news service of all uplifting, positive stories. We need regular injections of that sort of thing! (and hot sauce. we need hot sauce too!)

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    6. Scott,
      Awesome story, thanks for sharing!
      I have been there before but unfortunately never got my phone back! But I am glad to see that honest people are still out there and that you were able to get your phone back.

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    7. I'm glad you got your phone back! Go Jose!

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    8. Deisy,
      I am finding out more and more that I had 'good luck' (theme from last week ,haha) because you are the 5th person to tell me their phone was not returned since mentioning I was blessed with the return of mine.
      I was sharing the story with my Ab-Psych class and giving the student body props for being guided by honesty, good morals, etc.,. . . and my fellow classmate chimes in, "uhhhh, I don't want to burst your bubble, but I went up to talk to a professor in class on Monday, and a classmate stole my phone right off my desk while my back was turned talking to the prof!!" I was speechless, as was the class, but then I made a funny by looking at the class and saying, "I try to give you all props for being a good student body, but y'all are sh*t!! (The class erupted in laughter, along with Professor Garrett, too.) I am sorry your phone wasn't returned. Thing is, is it was filled with pics of my furry child and other scenic pics, along with saved tests, numbers etc., and that was of more value to me than the phone itself.

      Thank you, Brianna. I am realizing that Jose is even more special than I originally thought. If you Like Taco Jesus Hot Sauce on Facebook you can see the pic of him and I, and his Taco Jesus Holy Trinity 3-Pack. :)

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    9. It's so nice to hear that there are still good people out there!

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  16. A very involved topic, and neither is correct as this is not an either or type of scenario to me. A blending of the two to create balance is what I feel is best. I love my major, Psych, but have also thoroughly enjoyed each Gen Ed class I have taken. Furthermore, I have found it useful in a depth-of-knowledge sense. I have always aspired to be somewhat of a renaissance man, desiring to have a very well rounded college experience, and trying to learn about many things. My English classes improved my writing and creating skills, math helped improve problem solving/thinking skills, poly-sci and US History helped sharpen my understanding of the constitution and our government system and our countries history, my classical and jazz appreciation classes further expanded my knowledge of music and its theory as well as opening me up more to things of art and culture. All of the general ed classes I have taken have all collectively combined to make me a better student and a better person, too. Just because it is general ed does not mean it will not ever have an application to your life experience and your major/profession. I believe it only enhances it further.

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    1. Hey Scott. Glad you got your phone back. I agree with you that a balance of the two is the optimal option and general education helps enhance your life experience!

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    2. Thank you (谢谢), Ying! Our campus has a lot of good people, which contributed to the faith I had that it would be returned. I like having had balance of classes because it keeps things different, especially since I have 51 more hours of psych classes to take (LOL!!). The fun is yet to begin, hahaha.

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    3. Very well stated Scott! College education is about transforming the students. Almost all of your college classes should have a transformative effect on your life. If not, you may need to re-evaluate what you expect to get out of college.

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    4. Scott,
      I couldn't agree more, I love my major but I also enjoy the fact that I am able to learn a bit of everything which alternatively prepares me to be a well rounded individual.

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    5. Too much of one thing, is too much, lol. I like a variety to keep things interesting.

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    6. Scott, I'm glad general classes have been of much help to you, but some of us just don't have that extra time or the money...lol

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    7. Hi, Gracie!! I was very careful in the gen-ed I have taken in making sure it applies or connects to my field/degree. Basically, I made sure to get a lot of bang for my buck, lol. My counselor would try and get me to take Drawing 101, and classes like that, and I'd ask, "Does it apply to my ed-plan. "No?, Then I don't want it."

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  17. Both statements make a compelling point, but I don’t believe that college should be entirely about general education nor disciplinary training. A combination of both is good. We need general education to open our eyes to different aspects of the world we live in. The general education provided from kindergarten through twelfth grade does not explore in-depth the psychology of the mind, the philosophy of life, or the diversity of religion. I am grateful for some of the general education courses I have taken in college because I got to learn new things I never thought I would and improve my critical thinking skills. However, not all general education courses are interesting and thought-provoking. I recall sitting in a public policy and administration class thinking, “This class sucks.” I would have much rather spend my time learning something that builds the foundation of the field relating to my major. Having a class that I didn’t care for was a baggage to my study time. The time spent on a boring, general education class could have been transferred to productive learning about my area of interest. It is important that colleges provide an opportunity for students to explore their potential career paths. It is also equally important that colleges provide an experience for students to build social skills, emotional intelligence, and an open mind to foreign ideas. Like Aristotle said, “Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.”

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    1. Very well said, Yang. I agree whole heartedly. The Aristotle quote was a nice finish.

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    2. I agree, we are introduced in high school and go into detail the first two years of college. To me that was enough and I could careless about those subjects. Being able to prioritize your major seems to be more sufficient as your are preparing for a job that will take then next 30 years of your life.

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    3. Yes Yang! Beautiful quote at the end there. I think that a lot of students miss the true meaning of a college "education."

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    4. Yang,
      Nice choice of quote, it leaves us with a deeper understanding that education is more important than we think. I love learning new things everyday.

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    5. As everyone else said, nice choice of quote at the end of the response. There definitely are general education classes that can be improved. I think completely getting rid of general education is not a good idea, but certainly improving them is something that needs to be done.

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  18. I like the idea of having the four general classes throughout college because it is different. If colleges and universities were established around a different format, I believe that would have an enormous impact on society. Not only would our educational system be altered, but our entire society could be re imagined. With everyone studying the four core studies, we could divide the school into four different classes, each with strengths and weaknesses. There would have to be a way to educate everyone while maintaining a balance in all subjects. The idea is interesting and it would be a lot like the school Hogwarts. Since there are four main studies and different grade levels, I think it would be even more interesting to imagine the institutions for the students. It would be so different to walk down the halls of school and pass by a third or fourth grader! The place would also have to be something as big as a castle and have an awesome acceptance letter. The idea of four subjects is like something out of a book and although we are not in a system like this, it is nice to imagine the possibilities. General education is important for everyone and it is important to understand different subjects. I believe it is crucial for students to understand more than one subject so we continue to learn different ideas and maybe connect them together.

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    1. With having four general classes, our society would only have knowledge of those four core programs. Yes, they would be knowledgeable in those areas but when it comes to a career they would be clueless. Employers would have to spend more money which then results in less positions.

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    2. I think more than just the expenditure on employers will be a concern. Economics, human interaction, communication,culture, society, everything would be structured differently if there were only the four main subjects being taught.

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  19. I agree with the idea that there should be no general education. The first two years of college are basically a waste of time. It seemed that it was almost nearly the same information that we learned in high school. If we were to implement a program where all four years were on your major area, students would be much more ready for the workforce. Often times jobs want experience prior to hiring or even applying. This could diminish that requirement and allow students to go into the workforce. To only have general education would be absolutely terrible. It would be extremely boring and repetitive. The information would be useless as many careers are not tied to the courses within general education programs.

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    1. I agree, Joshua. I've never used any of the information I learned in general education. It definitely feels like a waste of time.

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  20. There are valid arguments for whether or not there should be general education or not. On one hand, college should solidify your general skills in order to make one ready and educated both in their focus and out of focus. On the other hand, no general education allows many people to completely master our focus and perhaps maybe get us a master's degree faster rather than granting us a bachelor's degree. I would say, considering many of the people I've met in college but still need to brush up on fundamental information, definitely think that general education still needs to remain the core of a college or university course. Everything works on a foundation, and I believe that if that foundation is not solid, then I do not think there is a way to succeed in college. Everything needs a basic understanding of math. Perhaps not an advanced sense of it, but enough to get by in the world even if you aren't adept at it. Everyone needs to know how to write, and everyone needs to know how to communicate with one another. Each general education course also allows you to sample what you want to do, or perhaps change your mind on what you want to focus on. Either will get you towards the four years of university, but at least the two years of general education will allow you to solidify what you know and perhaps go beyond. If you truly wished to go further than a bachelor's degree (2 years of general, 2 years of major), you would instead shoot for a master's degree, where you get ideally two more years of education in order to become a master at your field.

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    1. I agree, everyone needs that foundation of knowledge, but I think that should come earlier than college. That basic knowledge should come from middle school and high school.

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  21. Currently, we have about two years of general education and two years of education in our major. I'm not exactly sure who I really agree with. I actually liked a lot of my general ed classes more than my major classes. So maybe I agree with having more general education. I am a business major with a concentration in accounting. I have done two internships and have a full time job offer in an accounting firm. I can tell you I probably used about 5% of what I learned in school. Everything else was learned on the job. I'm glad I had some knowledge going in. So, I guess I would advocate for about three years of general studies and one year for your major. I think major classes are still important because they give you a taste of whether you will like a field or not.

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    1. You have a good point Blair. It does seem like in the jobs we receive after graduating, we don't use much of the information we learned in school.

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    2. I think to your point I would flip it and do three years on major and maybe one year for general education. I've had two careers up to this point and for both all training was done at work. I know many students will study or cram as much as possible in their brain for a class, then dump it all out as soon as the semesters over. I totally agree that it is important to get a taste for the field you are going into while in college.

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  22. As someone who always knew they wanted to go into the health care field, I find myself leaning towards the no general education argument. Spending two years in classes that did not interest me made me resent school for a period of time. I trudged through countless courses that held little to no value to me – philosophy, history of music, anthropology. It did not make me a more well-rounded student. I felt as though I was being punished for continuing my education, for wanting to learn. I am a big believer that learning should be enjoyable, because how can expanding your knowledge of this vast and immeasurable world we live in not be? But when students feel they belong elsewhere and professors tire of teaching lifeless bodies, learning loses its power. However, I can understand how it would be helpful for those who aren’t sure which field to go into. I don’t think education should be an all or nothing. People are variable creatures who have different goals and values. For every experience like mine, I’m sure there are an equal number that have found general education to be pivotal in choosing their career. I believe community colleges should continue to offer general education courses, but once a student gets to a four-year college or university, the focus should be on their major.

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    1. Kimberly,
      You have a good point. Learning should be enjoyable. And some people might need general education to refresh their minds and then be ready to experience their major classes.

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    2. I agree with gen ed. making me recent school, I hated econ classes and I didn't feel like they had anything to do with my major.

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    3. I agree with you, some classes are just a total waste of time, while other general ed classes have a real learning experience that one can apply in the real world such as communication or politics, even if we do not like them at least we learn something useful. Unlike other subjects that do not necessarily makes us well-rounded but instead we feel force to take them, either because they fit in our schedule or because is the last option. Something I hate about college, classes that one is interested but become full before it's your turn to register. But in part that is what college is, a business, one that takes your money for filling in time to complete a degree, that to be honest is not even enough anymore. Now, we have to attend graduate school to get a more decent paying job and position, which goes back to the business of education, that is aimed to make money from people to actually get the education one needs in order to apply it in the real world.

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    4. Hi Kimberly,
      I agree that learning should definitely be enjoyable. I also agree that general classes help undeclared students choose a major.

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  23. Offering all of these general education classes is definitely expensive. Time spent in college would decrease if these classes were not required.

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  24. I definitely have to agree with the college who stated that students should have a major and take classes relating to the field they will work in. If we were to only take general education courses, this wouldn't prepare us for a job in any way. It would be like throwing someone in a pool without knowing how to swim. It makes a lot more sense for college students to take classes in a field that they will work in. For example, majoring in Biology will help someone who wants to be a nurse, doctor, or biologist. If individuals who wanted to be doctors only took general ed, they wouldn't know everything about the human body when entering med school. This would leave them with extra information to learn when they entered med school. Also, when we choose a major we're required to take general education courses anyways.. so this simply doesn't make sense to me.

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  25. I agree that there should be no general education. Not every task in life is the same nor is every job. For example, I am a designer. I took classes to learn how to design things and have also had work experience designing things and using this particular software. A psychologist more than likely cannot do what I do and visa versa. The reason is because we studied what interested us. If we are all limited to general education, we are limiting our mental capacity for growth and 9/10 people will not enjoy it. A working life is more enjoyable and easier to live if you are doing something you love.

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    1. I agree! It is always best to enjoy the job a person chooses because if not it will definitely be very dragging and depressing.

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    2. You are totally right. Being able to take classes that interest you is going to determine if you continue to go to school or succeed in college. If you only were able to take general education how could you learn more about your interests? I doubt many people would be happy if they only studied general education.

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  26. I agree with the colleague that believes there shouldn’t be any general education after 12th grade. I never understood why we had to take general education, I think it would be better to focus on our majors. We could also get offered hands on classes during college since a lot of jobs ask for experience when entering the work force. As students, I don’t think we really use our general education in any way once we start working. I always hear you learn 20% in college and 80% on the job. If we did not have to take general education that would also make college a lot shorter and maybe more people would attend and be able to get better jobs and it would even be better for the economy. Tuition would also be cheaper and students would not have so much student debt.

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    1. I like you idea of hands on classes. These courses would definitely help the students become more aware of what the career they choose is like, and as you mentioned also gain the experience before they do go into the work force.

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    2. I agree that general education takes time and money; but think about it, how different general ed is in college from high school. Would you feel well rounded in general subjects such as; science, politics, English, math, critical thinking, and communications from high school? because I sure would not. High school is a waste of time, it should really only be for 2-3 years in my opinion and save the extra year for actual college level general ed, which would save us time and money. I also like the idea of having more applied experience with internships that would help us get a job after graduation. Because that is when the struggle begins, after your done with your degree and actually getting into the work field in the field you studied.

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    3. I agree with that colleague too! It's true, it would help us focus on our majors more.

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  27. With whom do you agree? (should there be all general education or no general education?)

    I'm going to have to go with the brilliant colleague on this one. My choice is based on both time and money. I think re-taking general education classes are a waste of time. The reason I believe this is because I feel like these are classes that at times don’t even tie in with what the student is majoring in. It can also be real frustrating if the student transfers from a community college where general classes have already been taken, yet have to continue taking those un- transferable general education classes once the student begins a university. This causes a substantial drag in students, and it usually adds on to any other problems the student might be facing which unfortunately can lead to students quitting school. However, money seems to be the main issue for most to not continue attending school, and paying for additional classes that the students don’t need causes a major financial burden. But, for those who insist in continuing school, and that are aware that they are required to take these general education courses having to pay out of pocket is at times required from them. Being that financial aid is not easily granted to some of these students, loans are their next step. And with loans comes interest, which adds even more unnecessary stress to the students. In conclusion, I believe a university should just offer courses needed for the students major.

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    1. Hi,
      I agree with you because it is true, sometimes some of the Gen Ed courses does not have nothing to do with your major. This is a waste of time and money for people that pay.

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  28. I 100% percent agree that college students don't need general education, especially for the first 2-4 years of our college education. Unless courses are required as pre-requisites for courses that we actually need, or general classes are available for us when the ones we need are full, or even if a student is taking a couple of very difficult core classes and needs a course that can ease the burden. General education is a waste of time and money. The general courses I take should be up to me, not required of me. That's one of the most frustrating things about college. Many people have to take courses in general subjects that they don't excel in and the grades for those courses end up being a stumbling block. Given some people find that their major is not for them by taking general courses, but again, they should not be required. What should be required are counselling sessions. There are too many students having a hard time dealing with the stress of being a college student and the things that come up in life and choose not to go to counselling but turn to drugs, alcohol and other methods of self harm. Everyone should be required to go to 3 counselling meetings at the beginning, middle, and end of the term and attend more if needed or less with a valid excuse. In my opinion the most important thing when it comes to the how the students are when they leave college is that they the tools they need to have good mental health. What is the use of being "well rounded" when people suffer from extreme depression and anxiety. I think that being able to get a degree for their career in a shorter time frame alone would help so many people when dealing with those issues.

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    1. Also being well rounded is not going to help me when applying for a job that requires 3 years experience after graduating with a 5 year degree but I couldn't work a job during that time that would count as experience because they also required experience. It would not matter to them that I learned to sing, write poetry, play an instrument, read a bunch of books of geography, water, took random law or science course. Otherwise a lot less people would be struggling right now.

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    2. I think that general ed classes could be important to making a well rounded educated person as the first statement from the teacher said, but I do agree that many times this classes can have a fallback for our GPA, which in reality it only really matters if you are considering graduate school, and in most of the graduate levels classes I am sure that what you learned as general education can be very useful. You mentioned that general courses should be up to you? well they kinda are since you get to choose from a list of classes and see which one best fits you and your interest. I like that about college unlike high school. Also, we have counselors available to us in the university, you actually pay for them when you pay tuition.

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  29. I do not agree with the first teacher nor with the respond of the college since I believed that we do need at least some general education classes to make us more educated about the world around us, and not just about our field of interest. Nonetheless, I do not believe we should spend half of our four years taking general ed classes, but instead we should focus more in our field of interest for we can become knowledgeable enough to apply in the real world. That being said, more time should be devoted in having applied experienced in our field for a good amount of time, since most jobs required at least one year of experience. I think that if general education was better tough in high school, we would have a better education by the time we finished the general ed classes during college; because if I am honest with you, I would not be as nearly as educated as I have become over the last four year in college than when I graduated out of high school, and I am not talking about my field of interest but about so many other things I have learned along the way, from general ed classes, which have made view things in a different perspective than I would have if I did not have to take them.

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    1. I agree that we should have more hands on experiences within our field. Like you said most jobs require experience, and a lot of people coming out of college don't have that.

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  30. I agree with the professor that stated "no general education". Every student deserve to learn and be fully engaged in what they feel will be the best fit for them to learn the best. I feel like a general education sometimes can make the students feel like maybe school it's the path or route they'll want to continue. Just because the education side of school can disencourage them. I also feel that if the school system sticks with general education and no electives it will give the students no room to explore there carree options or their identity. But for those who choose and general education I see their viewpoint. I know that there are some students that don't know what they want to learn in college that would be a good option for them to stick to general education to help them explore what they want to learn. We could agree to disagree that it should be an option on what a student can and should choose though.

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  31. From the general ed classes that I have taken, I believe I have learned more than I did from just high school. I know that we have had general education from kindergarten to high school, but there are a lot of things not included that are taught in college. I agree with your colleague but only if certain classes begin to be introduced to our high school classes, such as economics. Yet, Im not sure if in 12th grade or lower, that kids really absorb everything they learn as they do in college. Maybe the idea of college makes young kids take it more seriously and therefore learn a lot better than they would in a high school class where a lot of times are distracted by other students by talking or being on their phones. I understand a lot of college students still fall asleep in class or skip it, but I believe the majority of college students pay more attention and tend to do better because college is not free. It would be great to have the four years on focusing on your major and career, but gen ed is something that seems necessary; maybe not for two years but maybe for the first year. I guess I'm not sure which side to choose, because both have a point, its just some details that I would change in order to agree. hmm .

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    1. Hi Azucenna,
      I personally agree with you, I have also learned more from the Gen Ed classes given to us in college than all the ones in k-12. Also, it is hard to choose because they both have a point. At this point we are being educated well because we have some Gen Ed and major courses. I believe we learn more in college than we probably did in K-12 because people are mature and tend to pay more attention.

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      I agree with your point of view. Lots of students in high school don't pay attention.

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  32. I do not agree with the first teacher at all. I think his point about general education is completely wrong. By the time a student enters college they have a pretty good understanding of which major or career they would like to pursue. I will agree with the first professor that you will get more job training in the field than in university. No amount of school can prepare you for something until you actually do it yourself. This is why I agree with the second teacher. Why should someone who is interested in a career with math spend time reading plays or writing essays. Why should an English major struggle unnecessarily with a physics class? I think allowing students to focus their efforts on their field of choice is a smarter option. This will allow the student to see if they are making a correct choice by becoming immersed in it with their education. Attending classes pertaining to your field is a more rewarding experience. You will get hands on experience to better train you for when you enter the work field. You will also be able to form bonds with classmates and develop a network for after university. Students are not going to test as well in classes that they don't feel a connection to.

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    1. Sean, I agree with you! By the time students do enter college, they do have a clue of what field or career they'd like to work in.

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  33. I would say I agree more with the second quote. I do think general education is important, however, I feel it is something that should be taught in K-12. I do think I have learned more than I did while in college. I also know that educational strategies are constantly changing. So with those factors I understand why it is important to focus on education and take general education classes in college, but I can not say I utilize a lot of those skills in my everyday life nor my past professional life. I feel it's more important to focus on the tools needed to provide a living. Making sure students are well versed in their trades could lead to a lot of success in life.

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  34. In my opinion, I would have to agree with the second quote with there being being no general education. Even though I find general education as a big part of a learning experience I can say its better to focus on a specific major. I agree with the second response because all four years should be focused on a particular field. With that being said, I believe that will help the individual obtain a career in that specific field he/she majored in.
    I understand why it is important to take general education in college but in my opinion I would say that focusing on a specific field would help the individual be more successful.

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  35. I agree with the teacher that states that there should be no General Education because it is true we spend k-12 learning general education we already have 13 years of the same classes. I believe college students should focus on their major so they can be more familiar to what they will be working on after they graduate. I am a Spanish major and I believe my major does not offer enough classes to educate me to be a Spanish teacher. Spanish major only requires a person to complete 9 courses and most focus on literature. I want to be Spanish teacher and I remember when I was in High School, my teacher never talked about literature so I find some classes pointless. I believe it is important for college students to have more knowledge in the field they are choosing because they are adults and will pay attention to the major they are interested in. Also, it is something they will be doing for the rest of their lives. Another thing, I would be a bit concerned if anyone could do the job of a doctor or a lawyer because then that would mean they do not have the actual knowledge towards that field. It would be awkward if I were to get my degree of all general education classes and become a dentist. There should be no General Education classes because we already spend most of our life in Gen Ed; we should be able to take classes we are interested in.

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  36. I definitely agree with your brilliant colleague that we shouldn’t have to take general education courses in college. We go through 12 years of our lives learning general education that you will have to retake in college and pay for it? That’s not fair. Not everyone has the opportunity to get their tuition payed for and then have to pay out of pocket for taking summer courses if they want to finish faster. I think taking courses for your specific major not only prepares you for your job, but you find out that if that job is in fact the job you have always wanted. Sometimes people go into the wrong field thinking that’s what they always wanted to do and nope. They have not only wasted about 2 years of their lives taking general education plus 2 more years of their major. Sometimes when you switch major, they make you take other general classes you hadn’t taken yet. It helps save time and money. It also stressing people out a lot. I personally feel like I am barely starting to take courses for my major. I feel like these last two years have been nothing but the same information I have once learned in my 12 years of schooling and lots and lots of stress. I do understand; however, that history is changing, but they should allow only a few courses to be offered to know what’s going on in the world. Hands on is the best experience once can learn from, but some major don’t allow you that experience at all or when your ending your college career. I am thankful for those teacher who do the effort to have the most hands on training as possible.

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    1. Youre right, college expenses wouldnt hurt as much if we only had to go and focus on our major.

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  37. I agree with the second quote. Throughout our 12 years of school, we focused on general education. We go off to college to focus on what helps us in our careers. We take courses that help us better ourselves for what we aspire to be. Some people take child development classes, some take classes for engineering. We shouldn't go to college to focus on general education.

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  38. General education is aimed for giving you the basic tools to decide what you want to further study. However, there are some classes that are not offered in high school and are in college. Taking general classes in college reminded me of things I learned in High school, and how much I really disliked it. There are some classes I believe are essential for whatever career field you choose. Especially English, considering that’s what we speak to one another, and write to others. There are some classes that honestly felt like a waste of my time, and maybe learned one thing that was interesting to me and I then forgot. A music history class will do nothing for me in my profession, neither will an astronomy class, but I can’t graduate until I take these classes. The only thing is a sense of relief from mixing it up with one subject. I have noticed that taking multiple classes in the same major, like my Criminal Justice classes, play off one another and having just learned something I can apply it more quickly and knowledgeable. I think twelve+ years of general education is more than enough. I would like to focus on a subject until I have achieved the goal of understanding it and applying it in real life.

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    1. Hi Stephanie,
      I definitely agree with you on the fact that while some classes seem useful to everyone (like your example of English, which we use on a daily basis for the most part), some have nothing to do with our major, and therefore may not be as useful to us in the future (like the Dance on film class I took in 2012!). I do like the idea that when selecting some of the required classes, we have options as far as what is more interesting to us, although possibly not more useful. For example, when choosing our "Arts and Humanities" classes, we can select from foreign language classes, art, music etc. This at least makes it more bearable. For the most part though, I do agree that some classes should be required, while others should not.

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  39. I suppose I agree more with the individual who said no general education, but looking back I do feel I have benefited from a lot of my general education experiences. I'm not sure if we need so much general education to get to our major, but many times going into college, students are unsure of what they want their major to be. College is about finding out who you are as an independent person in the world, and who you want to be. I feel that being exposed to some general education helps point people who are undecided in the right direction. With that being said, I also would have liked to have a few more years of job training under my belt before going into the world of nursing, because it is rather scary being responsible for decisions that might mean life or death for a patient.

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  40. I suppose I agree with that there should be no general education to an extent. I do believe that we get plenty of general education before college and if someone chooses to further their education it should be in the career field they are going into. However, I do feel like classes such as English/writing, communication, and foreign languages are helpful in college. These classes can help students become better communicators, which is helpful no matter what field you go into. Anything besides those though I feel isn’t very important. This semester I am taking a cosmology to fulfill one of my theme requirements. This was not my first choice in classes but it is what was left and I had to take it in order to graduate. It turned out to be my hardest class this semester, and I am taking two different senior seminar classes. I feel like a student shouldn’t have to struggle and worry about graduating over a general education class. I would rather spend my time taking more classes that go more in depth of my major/minor than take so many gen ed classes. So if it comes down to all or nothing, I would choose no general education in college.

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  41. If I had to agree with one of these colleagues I would have to agree with the one who said there should be no general education. Yes, general education is helpful for hose students who do not know what they are going to major in but for those who do know they should be able to spend most of their time training for what they want to be. Most general education classes is material that we have already learned, therefore I think it is a waste of time to have to go through these classes. Having no general education classes we have more time to prepare for our future and gain the skills that we need in order to be successful.

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    1. i have to say I agree with your statement but also I think the only reason I couldn't agree with either was because I feel like we are entitle to make our own decisions and at the end of the day we decided what we want.

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  42. Is it weird if I say I don’t agree with either or, only because it’s up to see what we want in life and whether or not we want to take those we don’t necessarily have to take those classes if we don’t like we have a choice in college and we have options and no one can make that decision but our selves. But, every day between kindergarten and senior year of high school, we took classes in almost every subject area – math, English, social studies, foreign language, sciences, etc. The classes that challenged us in high school are still equally as likely to challenge us in college. Except now, the GPA that is presented to future employers when we graduate college is potentially 50 percent contingent on our success in these areas, rather than entirely on the subject in which we earned our degrees. Students should not be forced to choose between exerting minimal effort and being subject to the same expectations and work load in a class as the students within that major. Choosing the former will cheapen a student’s desire to engage in their learning. Choosing the latter may potentially force the student to sacrifice a substantial amount of time that they would prefer to spend on courses required for their major. As a result, this may potentially lessen their ability to engage in their major classes, and even lead to a lower GPA due to the lessened available time to spend on those classes. So I guess I agree to disagree.

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  43. - Having experienced general education not only from kindergarten to my senior year in high school and also in college, I am conflicted with question. If I had to decide on having only general education in college or only courses for one's own major, I would decide on only a student's major. I see both point of views however. One view is only general education, which to me is not helpful if you want to devote yourself to a specific field of study, but I do see how it can be helpful to include general education in college. It is helpful especially for students who do not know which career path to take and also for everyone's in depth understanding on certain fields of study. College is very different from high school. In high school, we do not read and write at the same level nor do we have the same amount of work load or requirements to pass a class. Point being, general education in college differs from high school. However I can see the other side of the argument as well. Working on your major work is more vital in than working only in general education, but I am glad we have (some) general education requirements because those classes can benefit a lot of people.

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  44. In my opinion, I would agree with the first paragraph, which stated that general education is needed. This is mainly because general education broadens people’s ways of thinking. These kinds of subjects make people become creative writers and thinkers. I have several examples to include, regarding what I wrote above. I noticed that English is important, because it involves the writing processes of different compositions, which help people write proposals and letters to the editor. This is useful for the workplace, and it is helpful for writers. History is important, because it helps broaden people’s ways of thinking, in essay writing and position-taking. All general education courses offer insights for every single individual in college, because they help individuals become better professionals like the following: lawyers, politicians, engineers, mathematicians, managers, etc. People can use general education to apply themselves at work, in case certain plans fail. For example, if there is a drought, a farmer can use the principles of economics, to increase his/her price of crops to gain profit. Psychology includes a lot of problem-solving, just like what Daniel Valle said. General education involves the studying of different people’s views, and the making of a lot of analyses. Overall, this is a good topic to consider.

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  45. Looking back at my college experience, I would say general education has benefited me maybe 10%, and the rest has come from my major classes. When I was taking my general education classes I didn't have much interest in any of them, therefore, I put in the minimal work possible and took the tests from a memorization standpoint, instead of actually learning the material. Once the class was over I basically tuned out everything I had learned, and now three years later, everything I memorized for the short period of time is completely out of my memory. As a nursing major, I think it would be extremely beneficial to learn nursing for four years, instead of two or three. Nursing is a very intricate career that requires a great deal of learning and practice. I think it would be super helpful to devote four years to your major, that way you can become more of an expert and be ready once you get out in the field. However, I think general education as an 'optional' route would also be helpful. This would help those who are still unsure on what career path they want to take to discover their passion.

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    1. I agree if its an optional route more people would graduate college and not drop out. A lot of people drop out of college because of the general education classes they cannot pass or it gets overwhelming.

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  46. There should be no general education once you've done general education throughout your whole life. College is set up to prepare us for our specified field of work for whatever us students want to have a career in. Now if your undeclared and don't have an idea of what you want to do in life then, general education classes should only be required by those who are undeclared. If you already know what you want to do in life, then you should be able to enter college and instantly start taking your major classes instead of wasting time and money on classes that has no relevance to your field of work that you want to go into.

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This course has some weekly assignments that you must keep up on. There are also a few other papers and books to read throughout the semester. But if you keep up with the weekly assignments on here, your writing will improve and you will put yourself in a great position to do well in this class!


These are time sensitive. You do not receive credit if you write them after the deadline(Saturday) each week. Furthermore, if you are in the habit of writing everything on Saturday you will not receive full credit. Why? There would be no time for others to interact with your writing. Write early; write often! Right? Right!

HERE IS THE WORK THAT MUST BE COMPLETED EACH WEEK...


FIRST, there's a blog entry (about 250 words) which will have you respond to a hopefully thought-provoking question. Each week, you must do the blog entry with enough time left in the week to be able to enter into dialogue online with your classmates. Write, reply, write more, reply more, and then write and reply more.


SECOND, there's a reading. There’s no blog entry associated with this. Just read.


THIRD, there's a written response to the reading. Your reading and writing on the blog must be completed by the SATURDAY (by midnight) of the week in which the reading falls. This entry should be a long paragraph. YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESPOND TO OTHER STUDENTS IN PART THREE EACH WEEK.